Persecution Blog: A "Peaceful" Comment from a Muslim?

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October 12, 2007

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Betty

I recently came across your blog and have been reading along. I thought I would leave my first comment. I don't know what to say except that I have enjoyed reading. Nice blog. I will keep visiting this blog very often.


Betty

Natalie

Oh my Billy-Bob Thorton.

So I have some questions. Do you know ANYTHING about Islam? Have you read the Qur'an. Do you even know what the Qur'an is?

"Part of their instructions in the Koran is for them to lie or do whatever it takes not to allow anyone else to know their agenda. So of course they would say that they are peaceful. They are instructed to tell us what we want to hear whether it is true or not. How can anyone with any common sense at all believe a word that is spoken from the peaceful Muslims?"
Do you have any proof of this?

'Cause seriously I'm a highschool student and I probably know more about the religion then you do.

Islam means “submission to the will of God.” Muslims, by the laws of the Qur'an are not permitted to act violently against someone unless they are being oppressed. And I say that Christians forcing their damn religion on people, like in the crusades, is a form of oppression.

[22:39] Permission (to fight) is given to those upon whom war is made because they are oppressed, and most surely Allah is well able to assist them;

And seriously, if you believe what the media says about the Jihad, you are ignorant. Jihad means struggle, not Holy War. in fact Muslims aren't even ALLOWED to take life. They are condemned if they do.

[17:33] Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand retaliation or to forgive): but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life, for he is helped (by the Law)

And if you think about it, the Qur'an isn't any bloodier then the Holy Bible. And the reason why the Qur'an seems so bloody is because, pre-Islamic Arabia always had some sort of conflict. A religious text made in the time of constant war is going to be a bit bloody. When Muhammad brought the Qur'an to them it spread peace through Arabia.

"I am a C.hristian. Do you see Jews, Christians, Buddhists, or any other "religion" killing themselves and killing others in the name of their God."

THAT IS TOTALLY FALSE! Allah does NOT tell Muslims to kill themselves. It is terrorist organizations the slew the word of Allah, making them believe that if they "sacrafice themselves for their religion" they will get 72 virgins in heaven. and [personally, the reason why I think you are so adverse to the Idea of Islam is BECAUSE you're Christian. You've had that religion shoved down your throat since you were born and you were taught that anyone else practicing a different religion are heathens. Well, Guess what heathen means.
Heathen- an unconverted individual of a people that do not acknowledge the God of the Bible; a person who is neither a Jew, Christian, nor Muslim.

"...killing others in the name of their God." what do you call the Crusades? The Crusades were a series of religion-driven military campaigns waged by much of Christian Europe against external and internal opponents. The Crusades originally had the goal of recapturing Jerusalem and the Holy Land from Muslim rule.

Isn't that killing others in the name of their religion.

Seriously, I'm in eleventh grade. I'm a Baptist by default, though I'm currently Agnostic.

By the way, Persecution of Christians? Christians are the ones persecuting others.

Natalie

Oh my Billy-Bob Thorton.

So I have some questions. Do you know ANYTHING about Islam? Have you read the Qur'an. Do you even know what the Qur'an is?

"Part of their instructions in the Koran is for them to lie or do whatever it takes not to allow anyone else to know their agenda. So of course they would say that they are peaceful. They are instructed to tell us what we want to hear whether it is true or not. How can anyone with any common sense at all believe a word that is spoken from the peaceful Muslims?"
Do you have any proof of this?

'Cause seriously I'm a highschool student and I probably know more about the religion then you do.

Islam means “submission to the will of God.” Muslims, by the laws of the Qur'an are not permitted to act violently against someone unless they are being oppressed. And I say that Christians forcing their damn religion on people, like in the crusades, is a form of oppression.

[22:39] Permission (to fight) is given to those upon whom war is made because they are oppressed, and most surely Allah is well able to assist them;

And seriously, if you believe what the media says about the Jihad, you are ignorant. Jihad means struggle, not Holy War. in fact Muslims aren't even ALLOWED to take life. They are condemned if they do.

[17:33] Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause. And if anyone is slain wrongfully, we have given his heir authority (to demand retaliation or to forgive): but let him not exceed bounds in the matter of taking life, for he is helped (by the Law)

And if you think about it, the Qur'an isn't any bloodier then the Holy Bible. And the reason why the Qur'an seems so bloody is because, pre-Islamic Arabia always had some sort of conflict. A religious text made in the time of constant war is going to be a bit bloody. When Muhammad brought the Qur'an to them it spread peace through Arabia.

"I am a C.hristian. Do you see Jews, Christians, Buddhists, or any other "religion" killing themselves and killing others in the name of their God."

THAT IS TOTALLY FALSE! Allah does NOT tell Muslims to kill themselves. It is terrorist organizations the slew the word of Allah, making them believe that if they "sacrafice themselves for their religion" they will get 72 virgins in heaven. and [personally, the reason why I think you are so adverse to the Idea of Islam is BECAUSE you're Christian. You've had that religion shoved down your throat since you were born and you were taught that anyone else practicing a different religion are heathens. Well, Guess what heathen means.
Heathen- an unconverted individual of a people that do not acknowledge the God of the Bible; a person who is neither a Jew, Christian, nor Muslim.

"...killing others in the name of their God." what do you call the Crusades? The Crusades were a series of religion-driven military campaigns waged by much of Christian Europe against external and internal opponents. The Crusades originally had the goal of recapturing Jerusalem and the Holy Land from Muslim rule.

Isn't that killing others in the name of their religion.

Seriously, I'm in eleventh grade. I'm a Baptist by default, though I'm currently Agnostic.

By the way, Persecution of Christians? Christians are the ones persecuting others.

Denice

I am not at all surprised by this comment, dismayed that the Muslim community feels this way and I don't think it is just the radicals either. Their goal is, I believe, to make the whole world Muslim and they are surely working hard in the United States to achieve it.

Michael Carey

I do not think that the Muslims that believe that their religion is one of peace really know what their religion consists of, or they are lying to us and themselves. Part of their instructions in the Koran is for them to lie or do whatever it takes not to allow anyone else to know their agenda. So of course they would say that they are peaceful. They are instructed to tell us what we want to hear whether it is true or not. How can anyone with any common sense at all believe a word that is spoken from the peaceful Muslims?
Matthew 10:16: Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
We are to be wise as serpents. Do not be naive about where the peaceful Muslim agenda is moving.

kendall

Here is another Glenn Penner quote:

"Are terrorists real Muslims or are they not? Islam is a house with many rooms. While we are against one room in the house of Islam, the room shares the same foundation as the rest of the house."

I am of course concerned about the dangers Muslim terrorists present. I am also concerned when we refer to Islam as the "religion of peace," in quotes, and ignore the other "rooms in the house."

One reason I am concerned is that many of our young people, when they encounter Sufis or other "rooms" in Islam, become fascinated with this aspect of Islam that they have never heard about from us Christians. Many are joining up. One American youth, Daveed Gartenstein-Ross, went from agnostic to Sufism to what he describes in his book as "My Year Inside Radical Islam."

Some of our youth may be confused because we continue to emphasize the terrorist "room" of Islam and the "inequality of women" "room" when they see that some "rooms" do not ascribe to those views. Instead we should be emphasizing the life changing power of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who no "room" of Islam recognizes as the only way to salvation.

We should not ignore those such as your commenter, but we also should not ignore the other "rooms" which are attracting American youth in much greater numbers than your commenter's interpretation, whether you believe they are following "true Islam" or not.

Sammy Mitchell

"I think our God isn't God if he fits inside our head"

what is the purpose of hate. Do you think an all knowing creator would stoop himself to level of humans and purposfully order his "followers" to murder. The muslim religion is the example of hatred and persecution in our world today. I am a christian. Do you see Jews, Christians, Buddhists, or any other "religion" killing themselves and killing others in the name of their God. Allah is a false God and I beleive anyone who follows this muslim religion are also false people. The only advice I can give you is accept everyone for who they are and what the decide to do. If people want to convert to other religions let them. Radical Muslims are infection of the earth.

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